Last night marked the 11th anniversary of the infamous Phoenix lights, which the government still claims were flares despite the testimonies of countless witnesses from all walks of life who said otherwise. The video above shows Jim D’Litoso of Village Labs explains how the lights weren’t flares. His presentation was interesting and thought-provoking.

I found another video from AZFamily.com that shows two opposing sides in this controversy, a Ufologist and a noted astronomer. You can either read the transcript of this newsbit or watch the video.